Thread: Time series from CI, IU and II with Quality=Best

Started: 2014-04-09 17:14:04
Last activity: 2014-04-11 02:41:26
Topics: SAC Help
Mike Padgett
2014-04-09 17:14:04
For waveform data that downloads using Breq-Fast with Quality=Best, rdseed produces IDEP=Unknown and a type of "Time Series."

For these networks, what are the time series units and have instrument responses been removed?

Is raw data available that could be used to verify calculations?

Mike Padgett

  • Renate Hartog
    2014-04-09 16:08:45
    Assuming you are talking about data requested from the IRIS DMC using
    Breqfast, no, the instrument response has not been removed. IRIS always
    provides the raw data, unless you use their webservices and specifically
    request it to remove the instrument response.

    Units will most likely be counts (i.e. the integers that the digitizer
    spits out). You also need to request the meta-data to know for certain and
    to change the time series to units of ground motion (m/s for example).

    -Renate



    On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com>wrote:

    For waveform data that downloads using Breq-Fast with Quality=Best, rdseed
    produces IDEP=Unknown and a type of "Time Series."

    For these networks, what are the time series units and have instrument
    responses been removed?

    Is raw data available that could be used to verify calculations?

    Mike Padgett
    _______________________________________________
    sac-help mailing list
    sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu
    http://www.iris.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/sac-help




    --
    Renate Hartog
    Research Scientist
    Pacific Northwest Seismic Network
    Department of Earth and Space Sciences
    University of Washington
    Box 351310
    Seattle, WA 98195

    Tel. +1-206-685-7079 (office)

    • Mike Padgett
      2014-04-09 18:48:17
      Is the raw data in each seed file, or must it be requested separately?

      And thank you

      Mike Padgett

      On Apr 9, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Renate Hartog <jrhartog<at>uw.edu> wrote:

      Assuming you are talking about data requested from the IRIS DMC using Breqfast, no, the instrument response has not been removed. IRIS always provides the raw data, unless you use their webservices and specifically request it to remove the instrument response.

      Units will most likely be counts (i.e. the integers that the digitizer spits out). You also need to request the meta-data to know for certain and to change the time series to units of ground motion (m/s for example).

      -Renate



      On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com> wrote:
      For waveform data that downloads using Breq-Fast with Quality=Best, rdseed produces IDEP=Unknown and a type of "Time Series."

      For these networks, what are the time series units and have instrument responses been removed?

      Is raw data available that could be used to verify calculations?

      Mike Padgett
      _______________________________________________
      sac-help mailing list
      sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu
      http://www.iris.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/sac-help



      --
      Renate Hartog
      Research Scientist
      Pacific Northwest Seismic Network
      Department of Earth and Space Sciences
      University of Washington
      Box 351310
      Seattle, WA 98195

      Tel. +1-206-685-7079 (office)

      • Renate Hartog
        2014-04-09 17:12:08
        The raw data are in the seed file, you extracted them as SAC files. If you
        requested a full SEED file, you should also have the meta-data in the SEED
        file. Try running rdseed with the following options:

        rdseed -f seedfilename -R

        You should now have a bunch a RESP-files, at least one for each channel. If
        you look at the file with a text editor, you'll see something like this
        somewhere in the file:
        B053F03 Transfer function type: A
        B053F04 Stage sequence number: 1
        B053F05 Response in units lookup: M/S - Velocity in Meters
        Per Second

        This means that the first thing into the chain of
        instrument-response-stages (stage sequence number=1) has velocity units
        (i.e. this is a velocity response).

        You'll see many more Stage sequence numbers, look and you will find one
        that has input units of V and output units of COUNTS, the last output units
        in the response train are the units of the time series (UNLESS you
        requested it in other ways and explicitely asked for the instrument
        response to be removed!).

        Finally, you will see a stage 0 blockette 58, with an overall sensitivity
        (gain). For example:
        #
        B058F03 Stage sequence number: 0
        B058F04 Sensitivity: +6.26224E+04
        B058F05 Frequency of sensitivity: +1.00000E+00
        B058F06 Number of calibrations: 0

        If the original provider of the meta-data specified a "Frequency of
        sensitivity" that falls in the frequency range where the instrument
        response is relatively flat, you could simple divide your time series by
        this number to go from counts to m/s (in this example) and have an estimate
        of ground velocity.

        More details can be found in the SEED manual
        http://www.iris.edu/dms/nodes/dmc/data/formats/#seed , in particular in
        Appendix C, but you may also need to consult some textbooks.

        To get SAC pole-zero files that you can use to remove instrument response
        with SAC, run rdseed as follows:

        rdseed -f seedfilename -p

        I'd recommend trying out this webservice:
        http://service.iris.edu/irisws/timeseries/1/


        -Renate


        On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com>wrote:

        Is the raw data in each seed file, or must it be requested separately?

        And thank you

        Mike Padgett

        On Apr 9, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Renate Hartog <jrhartog<at>uw.edu> wrote:

        Assuming you are talking about data requested from the IRIS DMC using
        Breqfast, no, the instrument response has not been removed. IRIS always
        provides the raw data, unless you use their webservices and specifically
        request it to remove the instrument response.

        Units will most likely be counts (i.e. the integers that the digitizer
        spits out). You also need to request the meta-data to know for certain and
        to change the time series to units of ground motion (m/s for example).

        -Renate



        On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com>wrote:

        For waveform data that downloads using Breq-Fast with Quality=Best,
        rdseed produces IDEP=Unknown and a type of "Time Series."

        For these networks, what are the time series units and have instrument
        responses been removed?

        Is raw data available that could be used to verify calculations?

        Mike Padgett
        _______________________________________________
        sac-help mailing list
        sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu
        http://www.iris.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/sac-help




        --
        Renate Hartog
        Research Scientist
        Pacific Northwest Seismic Network
        Department of Earth and Space Sciences
        University of Washington
        Box 351310
        Seattle, WA 98195

        Tel. +1-206-685-7079 (office)




        --
        Renate Hartog
        Research Scientist
        Pacific Northwest Seismic Network
        Department of Earth and Space Sciences
        University of Washington
        Box 351310
        Seattle, WA 98195

        Tel. +1-206-685-7079 (office)

        • Mike Padgett
          2014-04-09 19:47:11
          Thank you again. The gain as a function of frequency is a big concern.

          Mike Padgett

          On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Renate Hartog <jrhartog<at>uw.edu> wrote:

          The raw data are in the seed file, you extracted them as SAC files. If you requested a full SEED file, you should also have the meta-data in the SEED file. Try running rdseed with the following options:

          rdseed -f seedfilename -R

          You should now have a bunch a RESP-files, at least one for each channel. If you look at the file with a text editor, you'll see something like this somewhere in the file:
          B053F03 Transfer function type: A
          B053F04 Stage sequence number: 1
          B053F05 Response in units lookup: M/S - Velocity in Meters Per Second

          This means that the first thing into the chain of instrument-response-stages (stage sequence number=1) has velocity units (i.e. this is a velocity response).

          You'll see many more Stage sequence numbers, look and you will find one that has input units of V and output units of COUNTS, the last output units in the response train are the units of the time series (UNLESS you requested it in other ways and explicitely asked for the instrument response to be removed!).

          Finally, you will see a stage 0 blockette 58, with an overall sensitivity (gain). For example:
          #
          B058F03 Stage sequence number: 0
          B058F04 Sensitivity: +6.26224E+04
          B058F05 Frequency of sensitivity: +1.00000E+00
          B058F06 Number of calibrations: 0

          If the original provider of the meta-data specified a "Frequency of sensitivity" that falls in the frequency range where the instrument response is relatively flat, you could simple divide your time series by this number to go from counts to m/s (in this example) and have an estimate of ground velocity.

          More details can be found in the SEED manual http://www.iris.edu/dms/nodes/dmc/data/formats/#seed , in particular in Appendix C, but you may also need to consult some textbooks.

          To get SAC pole-zero files that you can use to remove instrument response with SAC, run rdseed as follows:

          rdseed -f seedfilename -p

          I'd recommend trying out this webservice: http://service.iris.edu/irisws/timeseries/1/


          -Renate


          On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com> wrote:
          Is the raw data in each seed file, or must it be requested separately?

          And thank you

          Mike Padgett

          On Apr 9, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Renate Hartog <jrhartog<at>uw.edu> wrote:

          Assuming you are talking about data requested from the IRIS DMC using Breqfast, no, the instrument response has not been removed. IRIS always provides the raw data, unless you use their webservices and specifically request it to remove the instrument response.

          Units will most likely be counts (i.e. the integers that the digitizer spits out). You also need to request the meta-data to know for certain and to change the time series to units of ground motion (m/s for example).

          -Renate



          On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com> wrote:
          For waveform data that downloads using Breq-Fast with Quality=Best, rdseed produces IDEP=Unknown and a type of "Time Series."

          For these networks, what are the time series units and have instrument responses been removed?

          Is raw data available that could be used to verify calculations?

          Mike Padgett
          _______________________________________________
          sac-help mailing list
          sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu
          http://www.iris.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/sac-help



          --
          Renate Hartog
          Research Scientist
          Pacific Northwest Seismic Network
          Department of Earth and Space Sciences
          University of Washington
          Box 351310
          Seattle, WA 98195

          Tel. +1-206-685-7079 (office)



          --
          Renate Hartog
          Research Scientist
          Pacific Northwest Seismic Network
          Department of Earth and Space Sciences
          University of Washington
          Box 351310
          Seattle, WA 98195

          Tel. +1-206-685-7079 (office)

          • Chad Trabant
            2014-04-09 18:39:14

            Hi Mike,

            The units of the recording instrument and the scaling factor (sensitivity) at a specific frequency are often available in so-called annotated SAC Poles and Zeros files in addition to the RESP files. Recent versions of rdseed will create SAC PZ files with them (using the -p option as suggested below) and we have a web service that returns such annotated SAC PZs:

            http://service.iris.edu/irisws/sacpz/1/

            for example:
            http://service.iris.edu/irisws/sacpz/1/query?net=IU&sta=ANMO&loc=00&cha=BHZ&time=2008-11-25T13:05:00.010

            Converting the data to Earth units (using SAC PZs or RESP files) through a frequency range beyond the flat portion of response is something others on this mailing list can help with. As Renate noted below, the IRIS DMC offers a web service that performs this function as well (http://service.iris.edu/irisws/timeseries/1/), effectively doing the same thing as the sac software. Feel free to contact me directly, or use the webservice mailing list, if you have questions about that service.

            Touching on an earlier topic, SEED data qualities are generally not related to units of the data. The quality control implied by these codes varies by network operator and is generally things like adding more data to the set, making smallish time corrections, etc. I know of no cases where it is used to denote time series processed data versus, mostly it is a better, more complete version of the initial raw data. For the vast majority of IRIS DMC users they should not be requesting any specific quality of data, but just let the default “Best” return M quality data. The short story behind the use of the M quality code can be read here:
            http://www.iris.edu/dms/newsletter/vol12/no3/m-quality-data/

            regards,
            Chad

            On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com> wrote:

            Thank you again. The gain as a function of frequency is a big concern.

            Mike Padgett

            On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Renate Hartog <jrhartog<at>uw.edu> wrote:

            The raw data are in the seed file, you extracted them as SAC files. If you requested a full SEED file, you should also have the meta-data in the SEED file. Try running rdseed with the following options:

            rdseed -f seedfilename -R

            You should now have a bunch a RESP-files, at least one for each channel. If you look at the file with a text editor, you'll see something like this somewhere in the file:
            B053F03 Transfer function type: A
            B053F04 Stage sequence number: 1
            B053F05 Response in units lookup: M/S - Velocity in Meters Per Second

            This means that the first thing into the chain of instrument-response-stages (stage sequence number=1) has velocity units (i.e. this is a velocity response).

            You'll see many more Stage sequence numbers, look and you will find one that has input units of V and output units of COUNTS, the last output units in the response train are the units of the time series (UNLESS you requested it in other ways and explicitely asked for the instrument response to be removed!).

            Finally, you will see a stage 0 blockette 58, with an overall sensitivity (gain). For example:
            #
            B058F03 Stage sequence number: 0
            B058F04 Sensitivity: +6.26224E+04
            B058F05 Frequency of sensitivity: +1.00000E+00
            B058F06 Number of calibrations: 0

            If the original provider of the meta-data specified a "Frequency of sensitivity" that falls in the frequency range where the instrument response is relatively flat, you could simple divide your time series by this number to go from counts to m/s (in this example) and have an estimate of ground velocity.

            More details can be found in the SEED manual http://www.iris.edu/dms/nodes/dmc/data/formats/#seed , in particular in Appendix C, but you may also need to consult some textbooks.

            To get SAC pole-zero files that you can use to remove instrument response with SAC, run rdseed as follows:

            rdseed -f seedfilename -p

            I'd recommend trying out this webservice: http://service.iris.edu/irisws/timeseries/1/


            -Renate


            On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com> wrote:
            Is the raw data in each seed file, or must it be requested separately?

            And thank you

            Mike Padgett

            On Apr 9, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Renate Hartog <jrhartog<at>uw.edu> wrote:

            Assuming you are talking about data requested from the IRIS DMC using Breqfast, no, the instrument response has not been removed. IRIS always provides the raw data, unless you use their webservices and specifically request it to remove the instrument response.

            Units will most likely be counts (i.e. the integers that the digitizer spits out). You also need to request the meta-data to know for certain and to change the time series to units of ground motion (m/s for example).

            -Renate



            On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com> wrote:
            For waveform data that downloads using Breq-Fast with Quality=Best, rdseed produces IDEP=Unknown and a type of "Time Series."

            For these networks, what are the time series units and have instrument responses been removed?

            Is raw data available that could be used to verify calculations?

            Mike Padgett
            _______________________________________________
            sac-help mailing list
            sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu
            http://www.iris.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/sac-help



            --
            Renate Hartog
            Research Scientist
            Pacific Northwest Seismic Network
            Department of Earth and Space Sciences
            University of Washington
            Box 351310
            Seattle, WA 98195

            Tel. +1-206-685-7079 (office)



            --
            Renate Hartog
            Research Scientist
            Pacific Northwest Seismic Network
            Department of Earth and Space Sciences
            University of Washington
            Box 351310
            Seattle, WA 98195

            Tel. +1-206-685-7079 (office)
            _______________________________________________
            sac-help mailing list
            sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu
            http://www.iris.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/sac-help


            • Mike Padgett
              2014-04-10 03:54:11
              Renate and Chad,



              As I understand your responses, the Breq-Fast quality of "Best" will be
              denote as a ".M.SAC" file coming from rdseed. In the file from rdseed, the
              data will be called a "Time Series" file with IDEP=UNKNOWN, which means the
              units are most likely "Counts" and have no instrument response removed.



              Also, the "Best" quality data is considered to be the preferred starting
              point for all archived network data.



              I'm sure that I'll have more questions, but again, thanks for the help,

              Mike Padgett



              From: Chad Trabant [chad<at>iris.washington.edu]
              Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 1:39 PM
              To: Mike Padgett
              Cc: Renate Hartog; sac-help
              Subject: Re: [SAC-HELP] Time series from CI, IU and II with Quality=Best





              Hi Mike,



              The units of the recording instrument and the scaling factor (sensitivity)
              at a specific frequency are often available in so-called annotated SAC Poles
              and Zeros files in addition to the RESP files. Recent versions of rdseed
              will create SAC PZ files with them (using the -p option as suggested below)
              and we have a web service that returns such annotated SAC PZs:



              http://service.iris.edu/irisws/sacpz/1/



              for example:

              http://service.iris.edu/irisws/sacpz/1/query?net=IU
              http://service.iris.edu/irisws/sacpz/1/query?net=IU&sta=ANMO&loc=00&cha=BHZ
              &time=2008-11-25T13:05:00.010>
              &sta=ANMO&loc=00&cha=BHZ&time=2008-11-25T13:05:00.010



              Converting the data to Earth units (using SAC PZs or RESP files) through a
              frequency range beyond the flat portion of response is something others on
              this mailing list can help with. As Renate noted below, the IRIS DMC offers
              a web service that performs this function as well
              (http://service.iris.edu/irisws/timeseries/1/), effectively doing the same
              thing as the sac software. Feel free to contact me directly, or use the
              webservice mailing list, if you have questions about that service.



              Touching on an earlier topic, SEED data qualities are generally not related
              to units of the data. The quality control implied by these codes varies by
              network operator and is generally things like adding more data to the set,
              making smallish time corrections, etc. I know of no cases where it is used
              to denote time series processed data versus, mostly it is a better, more
              complete version of the initial raw data. For the vast majority of IRIS DMC
              users they should not be requesting any specific quality of data, but just
              let the default "Best" return M quality data. The short story behind the
              use of the M quality code can be read here:

              http://www.iris.edu/dms/newsletter/vol12/no3/m-quality-data/



              regards,

              Chad



              On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com
              <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com> > wrote:





              Thank you again. The gain as a function of frequency is a big concern.

              Mike Padgett


              On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Renate Hartog <jrhartog<at>uw.edu
              <jrhartog<at>uw.edu> > wrote:

              The raw data are in the seed file, you extracted them as SAC files. If you
              requested a full SEED file, you should also have the meta-data in the SEED
              file. Try running rdseed with the following options:



              rdseed -f seedfilename -R



              You should now have a bunch a RESP-files, at least one for each channel. If
              you look at the file with a text editor, you'll see something like this
              somewhere in the file:

              B053F03 Transfer function type: A

              B053F04 Stage sequence number: 1

              B053F05 Response in units lookup: M/S - Velocity in Meters
              Per Second



              This means that the first thing into the chain of instrument-response-stages
              (stage sequence number=1) has velocity units (i.e. this is a velocity
              response).



              You'll see many more Stage sequence numbers, look and you will find one that
              has input units of V and output units of COUNTS, the last output units in
              the response train are the units of the time series (UNLESS you requested it
              in other ways and explicitely asked for the instrument response to be
              removed!).



              Finally, you will see a stage 0 blockette 58, with an overall sensitivity
              (gain). For example:

              #

              B058F03 Stage sequence number: 0

              B058F04 Sensitivity: +6.26224E+04

              B058F05 Frequency of sensitivity: +1.00000E+00

              B058F06 Number of calibrations: 0



              If the original provider of the meta-data specified a "Frequency of
              sensitivity" that falls in the frequency range where the instrument response
              is relatively flat, you could simple divide your time series by this number
              to go from counts to m/s (in this example) and have an estimate of ground
              velocity.



              More details can be found in the SEED manual
              http://www.iris.edu/dms/nodes/dmc/data/formats/#seed , in particular in
              Appendix C, but you may also need to consult some textbooks.



              To get SAC pole-zero files that you can use to remove instrument response
              with SAC, run rdseed as follows:



              rdseed -f seedfilename -p



              I'd recommend trying out this webservice:
              http://service.iris.edu/irisws/timeseries/1/





              -Renate



              On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com
              <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com> > wrote:

              Is the raw data in each seed file, or must it be requested separately?



              And thank you

              Mike Padgett


              On Apr 9, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Renate Hartog <jrhartog<at>uw.edu
              <jrhartog<at>uw.edu> > wrote:

              Assuming you are talking about data requested from the IRIS DMC using
              Breqfast, no, the instrument response has not been removed. IRIS always
              provides the raw data, unless you use their webservices and specifically
              request it to remove the instrument response.



              Units will most likely be counts (i.e. the integers that the digitizer spits
              out). You also need to request the meta-data to know for certain and to
              change the time series to units of ground motion (m/s for example).



              -Renate





              On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mike Padgett <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com
              <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com> > wrote:

              For waveform data that downloads using Breq-Fast with Quality=Best, rdseed
              produces IDEP=Unknown and a type of "Time Series."

              For these networks, what are the time series units and have instrument
              responses been removed?

              Is raw data available that could be used to verify calculations?

              Mike Padgett
              _______________________________________________
              sac-help mailing list
              sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu <sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu>
              http://www.iris.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/sac-help







              --
              Renate Hartog
              Research Scientist
              Pacific Northwest Seismic Network
              Department of Earth and Space Sciences
              University of Washington
              Box 351310
              Seattle, WA 98195

              Tel. +1-206-685-7079 <tel:%2B1-206-685-7079> (office)







              --
              Renate Hartog
              Research Scientist
              Pacific Northwest Seismic Network
              Department of Earth and Space Sciences
              University of Washington
              Box 351310
              Seattle, WA 98195

              Tel. +1-206-685-7079 (office)

              _______________________________________________
              sac-help mailing list
              sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu <sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu>
              http://www.iris.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/sac-help




              • Chad Trabant
                2014-04-11 02:41:26

                Hi Mike,

                Yes on all counts, as long as you are getting data from the IRIS DMC (the notion of "Best" resulting in M quality code is a DMC-specific thing as far as I know).

                Chad


                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "Mike Padgett" <mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com>
                To: "Chad Trabant" <chad<at>iris.washington.edu>
                Cc: "Renate Hartog" <jrhartog<at>uw.edu>, "sac-help" <sac-help<at>iris.washington.edu>
                Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:54:11 PM
                Subject: RE: [SAC-HELP] Time series from CI, IU and II with Quality=Best




                Renate and Chad,



                As I understand your responses, the Breq-Fast quality of “Best” will be denote as a “.M.SAC” file coming from rdseed. In the file from rdseed, the data will be called a “Time Series” file with IDEP=UNKNOWN, which means the units are most likely “Counts” and have no instrument response removed.



                Also, the “Best” quality data is considered to be the preferred starting point for all archived network data.



                I’m sure that I’ll have more questions, but again, thanks for the help,

                Mike Padgett





                From: Chad Trabant [chad<at>iris.washington.edu]
                Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 1:39 PM
                To: Mike Padgett
                Cc: Renate Hartog; sac-help
                Subject: Re: [SAC-HELP] Time series from CI, IU and II with Quality=Best







                Hi Mike,





                The units of the recording instrument and the scaling factor (sensitivity) at a specific frequency are often available in so-called annotated SAC Poles and Zeros files in addition to the RESP files. Recent versions of rdseed will create SAC PZ files with them (using the -p option as suggested below) and we have a web service that returns such annotated SAC PZs:





                http://service.iris.edu/irisws/sacpz/1/





                for example:


                http://service.iris.edu/irisws/sacpz/1/query?net=IU&sta=ANMO&loc=00&cha=BHZ&time=2008-11-25T13:05:00.010





                Converting the data to Earth units (using SAC PZs or RESP files) through a frequency range beyond the flat portion of response is something others on this mailing list can help with. As Renate noted below, the IRIS DMC offers a web service that performs this function as well ( http://service.iris.edu/irisws/timeseries/1/ ), effectively doing the same thing as the sac software. Feel free to contact me directly, or use the webservice mailing list, if you have questions about that service.





                Touching on an earlier topic, SEED data qualities are generally not related to units of the data. The quality control implied by these codes varies by network operator and is generally things like adding more data to the set, making smallish time corrections, etc. I know of no cases where it is used to denote time series processed data versus, mostly it is a better, more complete version of the initial raw data. For the vast majority of IRIS DMC users they should not be requesting any specific quality of data, but just let the default “Best” return M quality data. The short story behind the use of the M quality code can be read here:


                http://www.iris.edu/dms/newsletter/vol12/no3/m-quality-data/





                regards,


                Chad






                On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Mike Padgett < mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com > wrote:









                Thank you again. The gain as a function of frequency is a big concern.

                Mike Padgett



                On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Renate Hartog < jrhartog<at>uw.edu > wrote:




                The raw data are in the seed file, you extracted them as SAC files. If you requested a full SEED file, you should also have the meta-data in the SEED file. Try running rdseed with the following options:





                rdseed -f seedfilename -R





                You should now have a bunch a RESP-files, at least one for each channel. If you look at the file with a text editor, you'll see something like this somewhere in the file:



                B053F03 Transfer function type: A


                B053F04 Stage sequence number: 1


                B053F05 Response in units lookup: M/S - Velocity in Meters Per Second





                This means that the first thing into the chain of instrument-response-stages (stage sequence number=1) has velocity units (i.e. this is a velocity response).





                You'll see many more Stage sequence numbers, look and you will find one that has input units of V and output units of COUNTS, the last output units in the response train are the units of the time series (UNLESS you requested it in other ways and explicitely asked for the instrument response to be removed!).





                Finally, you will see a stage 0 blockette 58, with an overall sensitivity (gain). For example:



                #


                B058F03 Stage sequence number: 0


                B058F04 Sensitivity: +6.26224E+04


                B058F05 Frequency of sensitivity: +1.00000E+00


                B058F06 Number of calibrations: 0





                If the original provider of the meta-data specified a "Frequency of sensitivity" that falls in the frequency range where the instrument response is relatively flat, you could simple divide your time series by this number to go from counts to m/s (in this example) and have an estimate of ground velocity.





                More details can be found in the SEED manual http://www.iris.edu/dms/nodes/dmc/data/formats/#seed , in particular in Appendix C, but you may also need to consult some textbooks.





                To get SAC pole-zero files that you can use to remove instrument response with SAC, run rdseed as follows:





                rdseed -f seedfilename -p





                I'd recommend trying out this webservice: http://service.iris.edu/irisws/timeseries/1/








                -Renate





                On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Mike Padgett < mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com > wrote:





                Is the raw data in each seed file, or must it be requested separately?





                And thank you

                Mike Padgett





                On Apr 9, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Renate Hartog < jrhartog<at>uw.edu > wrote:





                Assuming you are talking about data requested from the IRIS DMC using Breqfast, no, the instrument response has not been removed. IRIS always provides the raw data, unless you use their webservices and specifically request it to remove the instrument response.





                Units will most likely be counts (i.e. the integers that the digitizer spits out). You also need to request the meta-data to know for certain and to change the time series to units of ground motion (m/s for example).





                -Renate








                On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mike Padgett < mpadgett<at>quantum-earth.com > wrote:



                For waveform data that downloads using Breq-Fast with Quality=Best, rdseed produces IDEP=Unknown and a type of "Time Series."

                For these networks, what are the time series units and have instrument responses been removed?

                Is raw data available that could be used to verify calculations?

                Mike Padgett
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