Thread: Station web service: to Network, or not to Network?

Started: 2011-11-11 00:43:36
Last activity: 2011-11-14 19:36:43
Topics: Web Services
John West
Station web service: to Network, or not to Network?
2011-11-11 00:43:36
Hi.

This request:
http://www.iris.edu/ws/station/query?updatedafter=2011-11-07&level=resp&net=XM&sta=WM01&timewindow=2010-01-01,2500-12-12
returns a <StaMessage><Network><Station>... hierarchy.

This request:
http://www.iris.edu/ws/station/query?updatedafter=2011-06-06&level=sta&net=XM&timewindow=2010-01-01,2500-12-12
returns a <StaMessage><Station> hierarchy, with no <Network> level.

This seems inconsistent -- the <Network> tag should either be there or not,
but shouldn't disappear between levels of the same web service. I know the
<Network> level used to exist in the second request, because its removal
broke my code.

Thanks!

-- John

  • Chad Trabant
    Re: Station web service: to Network, or not to Network?
    2011-11-14 15:47:27

    Hi John,

    This is a bug, the next release will include a fix. Even though the StationXML schema currently allows <Station> entries outside of a <Network> container the DMC's service will not produce (on purpose) that variant, all <Station> entries should be contained in a <Network>.

    Chad

    On Nov 9, 2011, at 10:43 PM, John D. West wrote:

    Hi.

    This request: http://www.iris.edu/ws/station/query?updatedafter=2011-11-07&level=resp&net=XM&sta=WM01&timewindow=2010-01-01,2500-12-12
    returns a <StaMessage><Network><Station>... hierarchy.

    This request: http://www.iris.edu/ws/station/query?updatedafter=2011-06-06&level=sta&net=XM&timewindow=2010-01-01,2500-12-12
    returns a <StaMessage><Station> hierarchy, with no <Network> level.

    This seems inconsistent -- the <Network> tag should either be there or not, but shouldn't disappear between levels of the same web service. I know the <Network> level used to exist in the second request, because its removal broke my code.

    Thanks!

    -- John
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    • Philip Crotwell
      Re: Station web service: to Network, or not to Network?
      2011-11-14 19:10:26
      Hi Chad

      I think this is what you are saying, but just want to make sure. Do
      you mean "All <Station> entries will be contained in a <Network>
      element and there will be no duplicate <Network> elements"?

      In other words if a stationXML document has two stations that are in
      the same real-world network, then the corresponding <Station> elements
      will always be contained in a common <Network> element?

      thanks,
      PHilip

      On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Chad Trabant <chad<at>iris.washington.edu> wrote:

      Hi John,
      This is a bug, the next release will include a fix.  Even though the
      StationXML schema currently allows <Station> entries outside of a <Network>
      container the DMC's service will not produce (on purpose) that variant, all
      <Station> entries should be contained in a <Network>.
      Chad
      On Nov 9, 2011, at 10:43 PM, John D. West wrote:

      Hi.
      This
      request: http://www.iris.edu/ws/station/query?updatedafter=2011-11-07&level=resp&net=XM&sta=WM01&timewindow=2010-01-01,2500-12-12
      returns a <StaMessage><Network><Station>... hierarchy.
      This
      request: http://www.iris.edu/ws/station/query?updatedafter=2011-06-06&level=sta&net=XM&timewindow=2010-01-01,2500-12-12
      returns a <StaMessage><Station> hierarchy, with no <Network> level.
      This seems inconsistent -- the <Network> tag should either be there or not,
      but shouldn't disappear between levels of the same web service. I know the
      <Network> level used to exist in the second request, because its removal
      broke my code.
      Thanks!
      -- John
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      • Chad Trabant
        Re: Station web service: to Network, or not to Network?
        2011-11-14 16:25:21

        Hi Philip,

        Hi Chad

        I think this is what you are saying, but just want to make sure. Do
        you mean "All <Station> entries will be contained in a <Network>
        element

        Yes.

        and there will be no duplicate <Network> elements"?

        Not necessarily. The upcoming beta release will not guarantee that all of the stations for a single network fall within a single <Network> element. This is only known to happen if you request duplicate networks, e.g. "network=_GSN,II" (the _GSN virtual network includes the II network). We are considering how to make sure there are not duplicate <Network> elements for future releases.

        Chad

        In other words if a stationXML document has two stations that are in
        the same real-world network, then the corresponding <Station> elements
        will always be contained in a common <Network> element?

        thanks,
        PHilip

        On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Chad Trabant <chad<at>iris.washington.edu> wrote:

        Hi John,
        This is a bug, the next release will include a fix. Even though the
        StationXML schema currently allows <Station> entries outside of a <Network>
        container the DMC's service will not produce (on purpose) that variant, all
        <Station> entries should be contained in a <Network>.
        Chad
        On Nov 9, 2011, at 10:43 PM, John D. West wrote:

        Hi.
        This
        request: http://www.iris.edu/ws/station/query?updatedafter=2011-11-07&level=resp&net=XM&sta=WM01&timewindow=2010-01-01,2500-12-12
        returns a <StaMessage><Network><Station>... hierarchy.
        This
        request: http://www.iris.edu/ws/station/query?updatedafter=2011-06-06&level=sta&net=XM&timewindow=2010-01-01,2500-12-12
        returns a <StaMessage><Station> hierarchy, with no <Network> level.
        This seems inconsistent -- the <Network> tag should either be there or not,
        but shouldn't disappear between levels of the same web service. I know the
        <Network> level used to exist in the second request, because its removal
        broke my code.
        Thanks!
        -- John
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        • Philip Crotwell
          Re: Station web service: to Network, or not to Network?
          2011-11-14 19:36:43
          Hum, ok I can see that as a bit of a pathological request. But as long
          as the request sticks to real world networks, stations and time
          queries, do you believe it is reasonable for a client code to assume
          the single network element per network? That makes the client side a
          lot easier to deal with.

          thanks
          Philip

          On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Chad Trabant <chad<at>iris.washington.edu> wrote:

          Hi Philip,

          Hi Chad

          I think this is what you are saying, but just want to make sure. Do
          you mean "All <Station> entries will be contained in a <Network>
          element

          Yes.

          and there will be no duplicate <Network> elements"?

          Not necessarily.  The upcoming beta release will not guarantee that all of the stations for a single network fall within a single <Network> element.  This is only known to happen if you request duplicate networks, e.g. "network=_GSN,II" (the _GSN virtual network includes the II network).  We are considering how to make sure there are not duplicate <Network> elements for future releases.

          Chad

          In other words if a stationXML document has two stations that are in
          the same real-world network, then the corresponding <Station> elements
          will always be contained in a common <Network> element?

          thanks,
          PHilip

          On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Chad Trabant <chad<at>iris.washington.edu> wrote:

          Hi John,
          This is a bug, the next release will include a fix.  Even though the
          StationXML schema currently allows <Station> entries outside of a <Network>
          container the DMC's service will not produce (on purpose) that variant, all
          <Station> entries should be contained in a <Network>.
          Chad
          On Nov 9, 2011, at 10:43 PM, John D. West wrote:

          Hi.
          This
          request: http://www.iris.edu/ws/station/query?updatedafter=2011-11-07&level=resp&net=XM&sta=WM01&timewindow=2010-01-01,2500-12-12
          returns a <StaMessage><Network><Station>... hierarchy.
          This
          request: http://www.iris.edu/ws/station/query?updatedafter=2011-06-06&level=sta&net=XM&timewindow=2010-01-01,2500-12-12
          returns a <StaMessage><Station> hierarchy, with no <Network> level.
          This seems inconsistent -- the <Network> tag should either be there or not,
          but shouldn't disappear between levels of the same web service. I know the
          <Network> level used to exist in the second request, because its removal
          broke my code.
          Thanks!
          -- John
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